Oh the memories! So much more edifying to live without it. My mother (still an active witness) has accused me of living just for today. I say, Yes I am and loving every minute of it. And isn't it about time after forty one years. As L'Oreal would say, "I'm worth it".
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The guilt factor
by MoodyBlue ini was talking to the hubby over the weekend.
i mentioned the fact that so much of what witnesses do seems to be driven by guilt.
he said "yes, that's because they have a conscience.
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Another New One
by notperfectyet ini have been reading this site for a couple of months.
last night i stayed up all night, (not unusual for me though) and read the posts by ......well you know...the new kid on the block...who created so much fury.
at first i thought she was a fake, and i still do.
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Interesting how it is always our fault. I always thought if I was perfect enough my husband would love me and stop abusing me. No way. Much happier now. And know how to lay the blame at the proper source and still take responsibity for myself.
Don't worry about it Perfect. Perfection isn't necessary for love of life and contentment.
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Thanks For your Input All
by eyes_opened inthanks everyone!
you were very supportive and helpful on this subject.. <with the exception of the idiot at the end lol>.
edited by - eyes_opened on 23 january 2001 19:40:40
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How Rude! Why is it that some must see the need to validate themselves by invalidating others? This is an open discussion board. And we are all entitled to our opinions. This was a perfectly nice and encouraging discussion. Was there any need to disrupt it?
As for those two scriptures Nick, you took them out of context. And they answer none of the questions being discussed. I was a pioneer for over eight years and a witness for almost forty. If you are going to quote scriptures you better read the context.
And as for the scientific knowlege of time, I don't read the science theory either. I just know what makes sense with my life experiences and have an open enough mind to listen to others opinions without rudely attacking them.
Perhaps Nick you should peruse John 13:35. It may help you attain your goal of being reinstated more quickly.
Eyes, honey, you just keep coming here for support. Not too many of us will attack you. I don't think you were any of those things mentioned by Nick. I saw a person weeping on the inside for answers to very heart wrenching questions. Very big hugs and kisses to you!!
And I'm glad you have a supportive husband. Ain't it grand?
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1975 ???
by Scorpion inthe end of 6000 years is 1873. wt 7/15/1894 p.1675.
"in what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of god's rest day come to an end?
the year 1975.
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Personally, I think this is just a difference of viewpoint and circumstance. My father has been pioneering for forty five years. After all of us kids grew up and left home, my mother started pioneering too.
My Dad is extremely intelligent. And regardless of what the Society taught, thank God, he saw the importance of planning for the future. Unfortunately, that did not extend to education for us kids. One of my brothers was Honor Society in school. He could have probably went through college just on the scholarships. My Dad did have scholarships that would have taken him through college. He also was valedictorian of his class. I don't think he has suffered from pursuing the course he chose (financially anyway). But at forty one years old, I wish I had more education to back me up. I have my own cleaning business which is fairly lucrative but very strenuous physically. And my dream of becoming a decorater is very hard to attain. How can you find the means or time to pursue something when you still have to maintain the income you have without taking a break? I am not bitter about this in any way. But it does give one pause for thought. How would my life have been different if the Society had not discouraged higher education.
You cannot excuse their culpability in these matters. Most good JW's follow what they are told to do in one degree or another. Some take it further than others. But it is irrefutable that people are affected.
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Another New One
by notperfectyet ini have been reading this site for a couple of months.
last night i stayed up all night, (not unusual for me though) and read the posts by ......well you know...the new kid on the block...who created so much fury.
at first i thought she was a fake, and i still do.
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Welcome Not Perfect Yet!!
I'm intrigued. I too had a lousy marriage to an ex-Bethelite (got engaged while he was still at Bethel. Married almost seventeen years. Gives new meaning to the word nightmare.
My parents also pioneers and elder.
Intrigued by you!! Tell us more when you are ready!! Love having you here.
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Is it Biblical to Shun??
by charlie ini'm not a witness, but i know one very well and we have had many discussions on various topics.
we would both like to know, however, if it is biblical to shun the disfellowshipped/disassociated?
where in the bible does the society base the practice of shunning or groveling back for a long period of time if a person is sorry and wants to return to the church?
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Is anyone paying attention? The scripture clearly says "anyone called a brother". If you are disassociated or disfellowshipped, you are clearly not calling yourself a brother. This scripture clearly does not apply to one's in such a position.
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R U Disfellowshipped ?
by DFshipped inis there anyone out there who is df'd and desirous of returning?
i am and would like to talk with someone of like mind.
i was an elder who did something stupid.
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D'fed,
Do whatever you must do. If that is really what you want then you as a previous elder know the rote. Regular meeting attendance.
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When should you Disassociate yourself?
by happytobefree ini have been having discussion with my sister (relative), who is an active witness, about writing a letter of disassociation.
the reason being is that i have not attended the meetings in over a year and it's been 4 years since i have went out in the jw ministry.. i going to try to sum this topic up.
my sister think that i should not da myself because i have not done any immoral act in her thinking.
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Simon,
It sounds like a done deal. I am so very sorry. Too bad, when they came to your door, you didn't go back in the house and bring a tape recorder back. I would document everything in triplicate. Perhaps set up your own meeting with a tape recorder!
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When should you Disassociate yourself?
by happytobefree ini have been having discussion with my sister (relative), who is an active witness, about writing a letter of disassociation.
the reason being is that i have not attended the meetings in over a year and it's been 4 years since i have went out in the jw ministry.. i going to try to sum this topic up.
my sister think that i should not da myself because i have not done any immoral act in her thinking.
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Shame on you Larc. And after my husband appointing you to the writing department and all. Hmmm. Maybe RHW could just have a different position!
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I'm confused
by NickL inthis db is advertised as a "witness" board.
yet there seems to be some disagreement over the place the wts should play in our lives.
can someone inform me what the "official" stand on this matter is?.
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thinkers wife
Welcome whoever you are. Maybe you could tell us a little about yourself briefly and succinctly. Then we will respond in kind.
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